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   Начавшиеся последние годы дебаты историков разных мастей и народов о происхождении Чингиз-Хана и его и принадлежности к казахскому или монгольскому народу не утихают до сих пор. Притязания на присвоение славы великого полководца проявляются также у китайцев, татар и даже русских. Монголы безо всякого сомнения считают Чингиз-Хана своим великим героем. Поэтому сразу после распада коммунистической Советской империи монголы воздвигли огромный по размерам памятник своему выдающемуся историческому герою. При этом монгольский народ и правительство единодушно отвергли столетиями проводившуюся Российской и её наследницей Советской империями пропаганду о пагубности возвеличивания личности Чингиз-Хана. О чём идёт речь мы все прекрасно понимаем.
   Китай и её современные руководители продолжают чтить Чингиз-хана как исключительно важную историческую личность, сделавшую очень много позитивного для развития китайского государства в прошлом.
   Россия получившая наибольший расцвет и развитие нации в годы вхождения в состав империи Чингиз-хана, в недавнем прошлом и на сегодняшний день практически прибрала всю огромную территорию великой империи. Несмотря на схожую с Китаем ситуацию по наследованию имени великого правителя, Россия предпочла выставить себя “жертвой нашествия орд Чингиз-Хана и щитом закрывшем западную Европу от полчищ татаро-монгол”. Такая политика имперских кругов России на протяжении веков начиная от Петра Первого по сегодняшний день обеспечивала России права называть себя европейской нацией, присовокупить себя к Европе и в конечном итоге отмежеваться от “дикой Азии”. Тем не менее сегодня среди здравомыслящих историков и части русской интеллигенции появляются настроения о изменении исторического статуса России в составе Империи Чингиз-Хана и признания его великих заслуг в становлении и развитии русского государства.
   Что касается татар, то они давно отмежевались от имени Чингиз-Хана и всего наследия этого великого человека, несмоторя на то что веками несли крест и имя этого феноменального татаро-монгольского нашествия. Мусульманское духовенство с поддержкой русской официальной пропаганды о зле Чингиз-Хана для татарского народа сделали своё дело.
   Странная ситуция в этом отношении сложилась с казахами. Они занимают огромную на сегодняшний день территорию от Монголии и до берегов Волги. Даже в недавнем прошлом их земли были намного обширнее. Даже при таком уникальном историческом случае, т.е. способности отстоять на географической карте такую огромную территорию на протяжении веков, казахам не досталось ни клочка на историческом временном пространстве. Даже в этом злосчастном для русских “татаро-монгольском” нашествии казахам досталось лишь это тире между татарами слева и монголами с права. Казахи как бы оказались между татарами и монголами и пропали “без вести” для правителей соседних государств и их официальных историков. Благодаря русским правителям и историкам у казахов даже пропало их имя, поскольку их попросту приписали к малочисленной тюркской народности под именем киргизов. Оно и понятно, кого боялись того и уничтожали. Ну конечно, татары уже давно покорены и приручены, монголы далеко, малочислены и даже совсем не воинственны. Значит на эти два народа можно наложить всю ответственность за все злые дела Чингиз-Хана и его наследников. Они уже не страшны и не опасны. Истинных же виновников в завоеваниях совершённых Чингиз-Ханом и его потомками нужно умолчать и забыть. Ведь они же рядом, под боком. Не дай бог вспомнят о своём великом предке и двинутся опять на Запад. Дабы успокоить прежде всего себя и свой народ, российские правители делали всё возможное для забвения казахов и их исторической роли на просторах Европы и Азии. Самое лучшее это представить их как полудиких кочевников, ни на что не пригодных кроме как пасти свой скот. Так самим спокойнее и своих подвластных легче подталкивать на завоевания их земель с последующей колонизацией.
   Казахи неоднозначно восприняли возможность восстановить историческую справедливость после развала СССР. Отдельные историки, в большей части не официального происхождения начали бороться за историческую славу Чингиз-Хана. Все дебаты сводились к происхождению самого Чингиз-Хана. Почему-то все казахские историки считали и досих пор считают что если доказать происхождение Чингиз-Хана как казахское, то он автоматически будет принадлежать казахам вместе со всей его исторической славой. Хотя очевидно что одно происхождение не явлется единственным условием и правом на присвоение исторической личности определённым народом. К примеру, Александр Македонский был рождён макдонцем на македонской земле а стал греческим историческим и национальным героем. Персы также считают его своим национальным героем и потому воспели его жизнь и подвиги в знаменитом эпосе Искандер-Наме. Нынешние македонцы естественно боготворят его и гордятся своим Александром Македонским. Таких примеров можно привести множество. Но почему-то казахи при всём том что имеют в своем составе род Чингизидов, называют своих детей именем Чингиз, а ряд других казахских родов присутствуют в истории происхождения и жизни Чингиз-Хана. К томуже основное ядро и боевой костяк империи Чингиз-Хана представляли тюркские кочевые племена, без сомнения составлявших основу современной казахской нации. Во втором поколении наследников Чингиз-Хана и в самой империи практически изчезло даже упоминание о монголах. Имена, язык и обычаи в империи были исключительно тюркскими. В последующие столетия на просторах к западу от Волги также как и на востоке от Волги господствовали тюркские кочевые племена положившие основу современного казахского народа. В сегодняшнем мире любая уважающая себя нация и её правительство без промедления заявили бы о своей принадлежности к такой исторической личности как Чингиз-Хан если бы имели хотя бы сотую долю тех причин которые неоспоримо подтверждают причастность казахов к величию этого императора. Однако вопрос о принадлежности великого полководца к казахскому народу остаётся лишь в дебатах историков и умах казахской интеллигенции болеющей за историческую справедливость и историческое место казахского народа в значащих мировых исторических процессах. Странно что официальная казахская историография в основном замкнулась на трайболистских отношениях. Эта та единственная область которая поощрялась и не преследовалась властями далёкого и недалёкого прошлого. Возможно сегодня продолжается таже тенденция и в современном Казахстане во имя стабильности социально-этнических отношений в стране. Правители Казахстана не считают почему-то важным для казахского народа значимость исторических личностей. Узбеки и их правительство воздвигли после развала СССР памятник Тимуру сделав его символом и гордостью узбекского народа. Казахское правительство наверное до сих пор боится своего большого северного соседа из-за того что не дай бог их правители увидят в возвеличивании Чингиз-Хана угрозу своей стране. Ведь Чингиз-Хана до сих пор официально фигурирует в исторической пропаганде как как захватчик и поработитель русских и русского государства. Может оно и так, да какое казахам дело до их точки зрения. Это для них Чингиз-Хана завоеватель, а для казахов он великий полководец, освободитель и объеденитель разных народов. Ведь русские прославляют своих царей, особенно Петра Первого, который поработил десятки народов и захватили огромные территории своих соседей. Да всё это очевидно и понятно каждому здравомыслящему человеку. Каждый народ должен гордиться своими историческими личностями безотносительно того нравится это соседним государствам или кому-то лично в Казахстане или соседних странах.
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