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Должны ли казахи гордиться Аттилой?

Должны ли казахи гордиться Чингиз-Ханом?

КАЗАХСКОЕ ПРАВИТЕЛЬСТВО
Почему Назарбаев предаёт интересы казахов?

Кровавая баня на погранзаставе.

По Жанаозенским событиям нужно судить Назарбаева.

Проблема казахского языка это проблема казахов.

Стоит ли гордиться казахам, если на Олимпиаде за Казахстан побеждают представители других народов?

Русские в Казахстане: добро или зло.

Расколотое общество Казахстана.

Что казахи получили от Октябрьской революции 1917 года.

Украинцы рвутся в ЕС, русские тянут их в ТС, а казахи уже попались.

Казахам нужно как можно быстрее избавляться от русских.

Казахам надо предотвратить добровольное присоединение к России.

Научный подход к пониманию русской души.

Должны ли казахи отмечать 9 Мая как День Победы?

Помни казах, что русский твой враг.

Предатели празднуют День Победы 9 мая.

Почему русские евреи спасают Россию.

Происхождение русского языка.

Каких русских Путин и Кремль собираются защищать за рубежом?

Казахская конница

Происхождение украинцев

Предки казахов создавали новые государства и народы




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Казахское слово Майдан олицетворяет украинскую свободу.

   Украина и украинский народ сформировались в результате смешения кыпчаков со славянскими племенами. Это произошло также как с Болгарией, когда булгарские кыпчаки смешавшись со славянскими племенами на Балканах создали страну Булгарию (Bulgaria) и булгарский народ.
    Для несведомых напоминаю, что кыпчаки ныне составляют часть казахского народа, а в прошлом они составляли основной костяк прото-казахов, а современный казахский язык это сохранившийся без изменения древний кыпчакский язык.
    Украинцы, которые жили на западе, за пределами русского влияния, сохранили свой язык, сберегли культуру, не потеряли гордость и достоинство. Всё время боролись и продолжают бороться за независимость Украины от России.
    Украинцы, попавшие под иго русских, методически истреблялись, потому что русские боялись украинцев как более цивилизованного и прогрессивного народа. Первыми были истреблены украинские козаки. В последующем проводились постоянные переселения украинцев с их родной земли в Сибирь и в Казахстан для русской колонизации этих земель. На их место переселялись русские казаки и формировались русские поместья вместе с русскими крепостными. Наконец в целях окончательного уничтожения украинского народа русские устроили искусственный голодомор, который умертвил более 7 миллионов украинцев.
    Оставшиеся в живых украинцы постепенно превращались в русских. Они забыли украинский язык. А тех, кто говорил на украинском языке, русские считали отсталыми и малообразованными людьми. Русские перестали считать их за людей. Они называли их хохлами. Русские говорили, что украинцев как народа не существует, что они просто быдло, способное только работать на полях. Русские считают, что у украинцев нет своего языка, что они говорят на уродливом исковерканном русском языке. Русские внушают украинцам, что у них нет своей страны, а Украина это просто Окраина России. Русские нарушили ради этого даже правило своего “могучего” языка. Вместо того, чтобы говорить в Украине как положено говорить о государствах, например в Германии, в Польше и т.д. , они говорят на Украине. Этим они внушают украинцам, что у них нет страны и нет государства, а есть окраинная русская территория. На Украине, это как бы на Окраине России.
    До развала русской советской империи (СССР) украинцы даже не били русских в морду, когда русские в упор называли их хохлами. Украинцев даже приучили самих себя называть хохлами и даже гордиться этим. Они перестали понимать, что это есть унижение национального и человеческого достоинства. За долгие годы русской оккупации украинцы стали превращаться в манкуртов. Украинцев записывали русскими, чтобы увеличить численность русского населения, а также сделать их преданными России. Особенно это практиковалось за пределами Украины, в Сибири и Казахстане.
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    Русские правители смотрели в будущее своей империи, когда на оккупированных землях будут жить либо русские переселенцы, либо манкуртированные коренные жители. Тогда имперским правителям будет легче расправляться с восставшими народами. Пятая колона должна будет делать своё дело. Сегодня эта пятая колона в Украине, засевшая в её восточной и южной частях, предаёт украинский народ, нанося ему удар в спину. Пятая колона управляемая из Москвы мутит воду, проводит провокации, организовывает политические партии и препятствуют становлению независимой Украины, превращая страну в колонию России как это было в прошлые годы.
    К счастью для украинцев, для Украины и всех других народов, находящихся под оккупацией России и её пятой колоны, в западной Украине выжили и сохранились патриоты своей родины. Эти настоящие украинцы будут делать историю своей страны. Они освободят Украину от русских и присоединят свою страну к цивилизованному миру.
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